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Hey guys, I have a copy of the factory setup specs from someone here on the OLF...(thanks!)...but a question...when measuring neck relief at the 6th fret or so, is that figure of .010 holding the string at the 1st and 14th, or open? It seems it'd have to be with the string held, or the relief wouldn't be enough...

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Larry I am not sure who's specs they are and what guitar it is for but yes hold the first and 14th. .01 is a tad higher than I do on a 24.4 scale and I measure at the 8th .082-.085 todal unfrettedMichaelP38890.5695833333

I grabbed this off of StewMac free info


Suggested action settings

Steel-string acoustic guitar Bass E Treble E
    
Action at the 1st fret   .023"   .013" &nbs p; 
Action at the 12th fret   .090"   .070" &nbs p; 
Relief: .002" at the 8th fret         &n bsp; 
      
Nylon-string acoustic guitar Bass E Treble E
      
Action at the 1st fret   .030"   .024" &nbs p; 
Action at the 12th fret   .156"   .125" &nbs p; 
Relief: .002" at the 8th fret         &n bsp; 
      
Electric guitar Bass E Treble E
      
Action at the 1st fret   .024"   .010" &nbs p; 
Action at the 12th fret   .078"   .063" &nbs p; 
Relief: .001" at the 8th fret         &n bsp; 
      
Bass Bass E Treble G
      
Action at the 1st fret   .022"   .020" &nbs p; 
Action at the 17th fret   .105"   .094" &nbs p; 
Relief: .014" at the 7th fret         &n bsp; 
      
Mandolin Bass G Treble E
      
Action at the 1st fret   .030"   .020" &nbs p; 
Action at the 17th fret   .075"   .065" &nbs p; 
Relief: .005" at the 6th fret         &n bsp; 
      
Banjo Bass D Treble D
      
Action at the 1st fret   .037"   .035" &nbs p; 
Action at the 12th fret   .090"   .090" &nbs p; 
Relief: .008" at the 8th fret         &n bsp; 





OOPS I miss read Fret first and last per StewMac

"Relief
Lay a straightedge across the frets and measure the clearance at the 8th. (Or put a capo at the 1st fret and press a string down at the highest fret — the string becomes the straightedge."

MichaelP38890.5681712963

[QUOTE=Hesh1956] Thanks Michael, one question though: What is &nbs p?

Thanks![/QUOTE]

It is code on their spread sheet format ignore them

Thanks Michael, i'm sure this sheet will be very useful for me in the coming days!

Bryan Kimsey has a great set of pages with his views on neck relief and some good info on setup in general if you peruse his site a bit...

-Mark

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Thanks for the link Mark!

Hi Guys,
While working at Carruthers Guitars in California, the general rule of thumb was to capo the 1st fret, Fret @ the neck/ body joint and look for .008 to .012 relief between the bottom of the string and the fret at the mid point ,(between the 1st and other fretted fret). I hope this helps!

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Those that have bought the StewMac String Action Gauge know this. If you buy it you get a chart the shows Fender, Gibson and Martin spec for common models electic, accoustic and classical.MichaelP38891.4663310185

Yeah I have that -I love the Martin specs - try finding more than one in a store that is actually set up that well .... not anywhere near where I live you will.

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I have a friend that manages the local Martin dealership here in Odessa. He has told me horror stories about Martin, Gibson and Yamaha setups out of the box. He also told me up until about 4 years ago that neck sets on Martin lower priced and mid priced models was at about 20%-30% near reject rate, but has told me that that has changed for the better over the past couple years

[QUOTE=MichaelP]He also told me up until about 4 years ago that neck sets on Martin lower priced and mid priced models was at about 20%-30% near reject rate, but has told me that that has changed for the better over the past couple years[/QUOTE]

Maybe they bought Mr. Woolson's neck jig plans that you did such a fine job of drawing up.

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